The Lance Shabazz Show # 121 part 3

magnetic77 diyorki:

Oct 13, 2008 - peace..is there a part 3 brother?

TheConsciousLife diyorki:

Oct 13, 2008 - Because they/we were not firm believers we had not studied as we should have.Just like the children of Israel,they only believed as long as Musa was among them, and holding up the scepter(the law).Well we were good as long as our law giver was among us,Then we were tested and we fail but ALLAH HAS PRESERVED a way for us to return and repent and he is EVER FORGIVING All praise is due to Allah Master Fard Muhammad! The Messenger knew all that we would do and loved us still!He charges the laborers.

bjmhmd diyorki:

Oct 13, 2008 - Woe to every slanderer and defamer!HQ 104:1-read footnote 6266Yusuf Ali. Let those who are sincere seekers of Truth deal honestly with the irrefutable evidence written in This is the One, and Is It Possible That The Honorable Elijah Muhammad is Still Physically Alive??? by Jabril Muhammad. It includes a 1966 letter by THEM where he speaks of his escape from a future death plot. To do otherwise and instead resort to slander is to manifest spiritual and intellectual cowardice and bankruptcy

TheConsciousLife diyorki:

Oct 14, 2008 - Let he who has an ear, let him hear! Did you not hear what was sais by the Messenger about this man and still you can support him?? Jabrill Muhammad is a lying shame of a man to get money from the Messenger's people who were in pain because of his death. Operative words (is it possoble) NO!!!!Escape the Death Plot of those who tryed to write him out of History! Yes! His Escape is proven by we who hold Him up!ALLAH-U ARKBAR!

bjmhmd diyorki:

Oct 14, 2008 - If THEM said it, what Master teacher doesn't rebuke his students? Hebrews 12:6 "The Lord disciplines everyone he loves. He severely disciplines everyone he accepts as his child." How many of you self-righteous ones, if THEM knew YOU personally and thoroughly, are so perfect that you are beyond any faults or areas of needed improvement, especially in your youth? It's also an outright lie to slander brother and ascribe to him a "money motive". I not only support him, I love him for his testimony.

student3314 diyorki:

Oct 14, 2008 - It is very clear from that letter(Nov. 25, 1966), written by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, that he expected to escape a death plot and to be taken up to meet again with Master Fard Muhammad. Did he not say that he was going to physically meet again with Master Fard Muhammad, that he would be gone for awhile and then return? So...what do you lovers of history have to say about all that? (I wonder what the next diversion will be to make another excuse not to deal with the evidence and arguments)

TheConsciousLife diyorki:

Oct 14, 2008 - I only share the truth with you fools of farrakhan's, so that you will not be able to have an excuse on your day of judgement. The facts are clear for those whom have a ear to hear the truth. How can a student of the Messenger override what the Messenger said and taught.These lies that they invent are just that lies, So take it or leave it alone..I am done.Allah is the Greatest!and his Messenger. There is more Truth to come STAND BY!!

student3314 diyorki:

Oct 14, 2008 - Youre done? Based on the substance of the counter-arguments thus far, I must agree. Done(2) 1: arrived at or brought to an end 2: doomed to failure, defeat, or death[spiritual in this case] 3: gone by: OVER *the day of the circus is done* 4: physically exhausted So, I cant disagree with you there—again based on the emotional and shallow responses that fail to address the comprehensive resources THEM modeled in explaining his position (Lessons,Scripture,Math,Science,History,Human Nature)

ATOM09 diyorki:

Oct 15, 2008 - Footnotes? You better leave them footnotes alone. They gonna send you right to hell. Some devil trying to explain what god meant. Live a clean life and Allah will rightly divide his word for you.

bjmhmd diyorki:

Oct 15, 2008 - It is true that the full and complete interpretation of Scripture was given only by Allah Himself, to THEM. The value of footnotes in this and many cases lies in their explanation of the meaning of the arabic words. When translated, the english words are often lacking in meaning, due to the superiority of the Original language. Footnotes can also be of value when relating the history and background surrounding the time when various scriptures where revealed, as that history prefigures today.

ATOM09 diyorki:

Oct 15, 2008 - Thank you Brother Benjamin for your response.

bjmhmd diyorki:

Oct 15, 2008 - and I thank you for yours Brother, although, I am not Brother Benjamin.

bjmhmd diyorki:

Oct 15, 2008 - and I thank you for yours Brother, although, I am not Brother Benjamin.

ATOM09 diyorki:

Oct 16, 2008 - It's okay. You still my brother. Whether I accept footnotes or not (smiling).

bjmhmd diyorki:

Oct 16, 2008 - most definately :)

zeplinm74 diyorki:

Nov 4, 2008 - where can I get a copy of this letter sir, that you are referring to.

student3314 diyorki:

Nov 7, 2008 - It is in the book, "Is it Possible that T.H.E.M. is still physically alive???" many have physical copies as well. check with bjmhmd

zeplinm74 diyorki:

Nov 8, 2008 - Sir, that book was written by Jabril Muhammad. If the Hon.Elijah Muhammad didnt put that letter in one of his 5 books or say those words on audio for public knowledge, then we dont honor others conjectures and out right lies. I suggest that you listen to theology of time or read the hon.Elijah Muhammad's books.

student3314 diyorki:

Nov 9, 2008 - THEM only put 1 letter of his in a book, in the back of MTTBM. That does not invalidate every other letter he ever wrote, regardless of whether you accept them or not. The point is: HE WROTE IT. Period. This is why YOU ALL should practice what u preach and study ALL OF HIS WORDS with regards to what he said of himself. HE said he was going back to MFM to study and that he would return. This has been corroborated by many who sat at his table; most don't believe ALL of HIS words. Deal with it.

student3314 diyorki:

Nov 9, 2008 - I suggest YOU RE-READ and STUDY his words more carefully. Start with MTTBM, 4 articles which begin on 157, 186, 248, 286. Get a dictionary on look up each word—since none of them are idle words; study the Scriptures he references and SEE WHAT THEM IS SAYING ABOUT HIMSELF. In these articles he is proving his identity - from pg 188 "...the Messenger BECOMES a LAMB" LAMB is synonymous to the Christ figure in Rev 6 who meets with the GOD in Rev 5&6. Deal with it. I've done my homework, do yours.