Have You Ever Read Romans 9? (James White) [Full Version]

zoomno diyorki:

Aug 24, 2008 - Well done the clearity ofD r. White's exegesisis is a blessing to believers *two thumbs up*

LaneCh diyorki:

Aug 25, 2008 - I think you're referring to 2Peter 3:9. Is this the verse? The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. (2Pe 3:9)

jpmckown diyorki:

Aug 25, 2008 - Hey there Lane,, Rev.17:8&13:8 both refer to inhabitants who name haven't EVER been written in the book of life. Paul said in Eph1:4-5 and also in 2thes2:13 and 2tim1:9 that these saints were chosen before the foundations of the earth....Does this further show the "potters clay"? Were the inhabitants in Rev.. "objects of wrath created for destruction"? Thanks

martalog121 diyorki:

Aug 25, 2008 - excellent...praised be the GOD of Abraham,Issac and Jacob FOREVER!!!

nitarna diyorki:

Aug 25, 2008 - Yes, thanks thats it.

LaneCh diyorki:

Aug 25, 2008 - nitrana, I think this video will help: watch?v=_A5A8XBRVbw

nitarna diyorki:

Aug 26, 2008 - Thanks and God bless you.

IglesiaPeniel diyorki:

Aug 26, 2008 - when the Bible refers to all, it does not mean "all" exactly because that would be "Universalism".

whitedragonawa diyorki:

Aug 26, 2008 - This is so great I am so glad you posted this.

TimForChrist diyorki:

Aug 26, 2008 - Nice!

MichaelRShelton diyorki:

Sep 8, 2008 - It is not of him who wills nor of he who runs but of God who shows mercy He is the Sovereign Lord the High and Lofty One whose habitation is eternity. He does whatever He wants none can restrain His hand. Or say to Him, "what have You done!" It is not of him who wills nor of he who runs but of God who shows mercy. Is there anyone who can resist His will? Have you ever read the book of Daniel? Nebuchadnezzar was the king of Babylon and God made him eat grass like a cow.

masterowa diyorki:

Sep 9, 2008 - Very very very true. NOt always one can read such a biblically correct comment.

masterowa diyorki:

Sep 9, 2008 - People say that the doctrine of 'falling away' (which is in Bible) cannot work with election. The truth is these doctrines are the different sides of the same coin. The election is from God's perspective. But we do not know who the elect are, this is why we are to test and examine ourselves and rebuking others so to save their souls. Falling away will be there for those who believed in vain. Nevertheless, those who fell away are to be rebuked because they may still be born again.

webfryes diyorki:

Sep 10, 2008 - God chooses us to choose him, but will we?

pittedthighs diyorki:

Sep 11, 2008 - Yes we will choose Him. John 6:44 says that GOD the Father will draw ( 'drag' in the Greek ) us to Jesus Christ. GOD will drag us to Christ. GOD likes to do all the heavy lifting, even in salvation. Now THAT is Good News.

iahm87 diyorki:

Sep 12, 2008 - if you want a whole book on this, you should get Justification of God by John Piper

darrinrasberry diyorki:

Sep 15, 2008 - James - "Esau I have hated" follows from God's determination of election, which is LOGICALLY PRECEDING any good or evil that Esau did. Hate PRECEDES justice in Romans 9, since it is done BEFORE God considered the good OR EVIL that Esau (or anyone) did. Election is done with the logical precedent of complete arbitration. Hail Satan!

darrinrasberry diyorki:

Sep 15, 2008 - hyper-Calvinism all the way. Except for the part mentioned below, this man speaks the truth. Before you even did evil to justify you for Hell, God either chose you or not. Completely arbitrary. If this is true, and I ever did Christianity a single favor in my whole life, I repent it from my very soul; my only sorrow and regret in my millions of sins is that I could not live long enough to do ten billion more.

LaneCh diyorki:

Sep 15, 2008 - You're a Satanist. Your opinion is about as credible as my grandparents in regard to how to program their VCR.

darrinrasberry diyorki:

Sep 16, 2008 - OK, apologies for the troll line at the end of my post, I got carried away. However, I am an atheist, so that might be just as worthy of a response(maybe even less) than a theistic Satanist. However, none of this answers the argument; even if I bowed down to the Devil over sacrificed cats, saying my opinion is not credible is the genetic fallacy. What, then, of the first reply, which states that God's precedent of choice applies BEFORE even evil is considered for the individual?

boomac62 diyorki:

Sep 19, 2008 - I wonder why so many millions of Muslims,millions of Hindus,millions of Buddahists,millions of B'ahais,millions of new age types,millions of Jews,etc,etc,etc, are just as certain that there faith is correct as we Christians are sure ours is. i am a Christian but is it becasue I am living in a mostly Christian society? sigh...Predestined you say?...So why would a God who is Love also create anybody knowing He will burn him in hells flames forever and he can do nothing to stop it?...

LaneCh diyorki:

Sep 19, 2008 - How is a person saved? Is it because they will it? If you hold to that view, how does that nullify God knowing who he's created is going to go to hell? Unless you're an open theist, you have no defense. If you are an open theist, too, your ot position has no defense.

lowkimbo diyorki:

Sep 27, 2008 - Every man, woman, and child is deserving of God's wrath. His Grace and Mercy is what is on the menu. No one is worthy to step a foot in the gates of Heaven on his or her own. The fact that one can stand in Heaven, in the presence of The Most High, completely justified, is because he/she is found in Christ. Look to the fact that He would even save 1. All deserve nothing and He deserves everything. God doesn't save based on works..He saves based on His own pleasure. Who are we to question that.

chicamccartney diyorki:

Sep 28, 2008 - I listened to this video and it seemed to make sense, but 2 Peter 3:9 does seem to contradict what you are saying. What do you make of this verse?

LaneCh diyorki:

Sep 29, 2008 - This video should help you with that: watch?v=_A5A8XBRVbw